REINCE PREIBUS: In 2016, it was 24/7 lousy press, good press, everything in between, Donald Trump. If you look at the press, 90% of it's about Trump, and he -- he went through the last three weeks with five rallies a day, and turned out one of the biggest upsets in modern history. When it's all about Trump, he's winning.
JONATHAN MARTIN: Yes. So I disagree with that.
JON KARL: FiveThirtyEight average has shown a bit of a movement towards Biden.
MARTIN: I think the opposite is true. I think if the election is about Biden…
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MARTIN: …Trump’s gonna win. I think if the election’s about Trump, Biden's got a lot better chance. And right now Biden's problem is: this election is about Joe Biden.
KARL: Yeah…
MARTIN: I mean, that’s the challenge, right?
KARL: Those are the kind of numbers that make Biden very nervous. So…
MARTIN: And Michigan…
KARL: …so, how does The White House feel…
MARTIN: And Michigan’s the most ominous number there.