Oct. 21, 2025 . Alex Christy

CBS’s Monday installment of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert featured some blue-on-blue fireworks as the eponymous host welcomed former White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre to discuss her new book, Independent, the merits of leaving the Democratic Party and President Joe Biden’s withdrawal from the 2024 race.

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Colbert had a possible solution: socialism, “Let’s talk about Democrats who are getting people excited, excited, like, Bernie Sanders is getting people excited. He’s a democratic socialist. AOC, she’s a democratic socialist. Zohran Mamdani, democratic socialist. Doesn't that say there are fundamental needs of the working class in America that are not being addressed by either party, and if they don't change their ways, they are going to cut themselves off at the knees by toadying to special interests and corporations.”

KJP interrupted to claim Colbert was making her point because Sanders is technically an independent before adding, “The Democratic Party needs to be a big tent party, the big tent party that I loved and appreciated and felt seen in. And what’s happening—you just mentioned three people who are, you know, democratic socialists, independents, who are very much exciting people, but what's happening with more of the leadership/Democratic Party's side of things, they’re actually throwing people under the bus who are vulnerable and need protection.”

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